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How do you now deal with that? i mean, look, we can't figure out what to do with 12 million illegal immigrants, what are you going to do with 12 million americans that are now in this new health care system, are you going to kick them out? no. so these are some realities that i think the party has to deal with in an open, honest way. it's not enough to say repeal and not even enough to say replace, it's got with something substantive to fix what is arguably a yet-to-be determined system. >> eric, briefly on that and the idea that michael is arguing both sides. >> that would be great if we had ...

Who weren't in this system before, in the health care process before. how do you now deal with that? i mean, look, we can't figure out what to do with 12 million illegal immigrants, what are you going to do with 12 million americans that are now in this new health care system, are you going to kick them out? no. so these are some realities that i think the party has to deal with in an open, honest way. it's not enough to say repeal and not even enough to say replace, it's got with something substantive to fix what is arguably a yet-to-be determined system. >> eric, briefly on that and the idea...

Going to do with 12 million americans that are now in this new health care system, are you going to kick them out? no. so these are some realities that i think the party has to deal with in an open, honest way. it's not enough to say repeal and not even enough to say replace, it's got with something substantive to fix what is arguably a yet-to-be determined system. >> eric, briefly on that and the idea that michael is arguing both sides. >> that would be great if we had a logical, honest debate and both sides hashed it out. there is no indication that anyone there is willing to sort of break o...

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