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2019's version of donald trump? >> well, i'll just remind everyone, nancy pelosi is going to take the speaker's gavel in about a week and each -- so on top of that you have subpoenas on the house side. but these vacancies, the cabinet official left on their own merit or trump fired them or they're leaving because of alleged malfeasance, the would be successors will have to testify in front of the senate. we're going to have grievances from the other direction in both chambers and trump does not seem to realize what is coming. it is going to be very dramatic, i believe. >> dana, quick final tho...

He says people are allowed to do whatever they want on this somehow. >> you are not the first person to come on the show to say he's perfect. nowhere in as much ration to investigate or not investigate every month. but there's a long-standing norm to prevent republicans from doing that. this is a president that has blown up all the norms. >> that is exactly right. this may be one he tries to blow up as well. it is incumbent on the american people through the elected representatives in congress to tell him, if you try to blow up this norm, we have the right to impeach you from office. >> as abb...