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Things criminally but this is part of accountability project, trying to hold people accountable. at the end of the day, are we going to hold not just the people who directly assaulted the capitol that day who broke down the doors and fought with the police and desecrated the capitol but those who may have aided and abetted including the former president. that's what this is about. and so if one of these three options do not prevail, whether doj, the civil suits or 1/6 committee, where is the accountability for those at the top? that's what this is about? >> let's talk about mike rounds firing ...

Back, though. there are three things going on same timult simultaneously. civil suits and the january 6th committee and doj looking at things criminally but this is part of accountability project, trying to hold people accountable. at the end of the day, are we going to hold not just the people who directly assaulted the capitol that day who broke down the doors and fought with the police and desecrated the capitol but those who may have aided and abetted including the former president. that's what this is about. and so if one of these three options do not prevail, whether doj, the civil suits...

Community programs. can those things alone make difference? more money and more community services? >> not alone. they're part of the rubik's cube, assembling the lego. they can be very helpful. what is effectively needed to deal with the gun violence, the great concern, the murders and shootings, is effective prosecution and putting these people in jail that are a danger to society causing so much mayhem. there's incredible reluctance on part of the progressive district attorneys, particularly in new york city, los angeles, san francisco, philadelphia, all of the cities that are experiencing ...

United states adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. most people understand it is the attempt to overthrow a legitimate government. it is true, when january 6th happened, he was still president of the united states and yet tried to overthrow a legitimate democratic process that the incoming president who's been validated as the legal next occupant of the oval office. it's the equivalent of that. if you think about what he did and then what he's been saying about it and the clear intent, it's not enough to really talk about how he's aided an abetted an insurrectionist and incit...

Independent and functioning independently. he did that not only because he's a cautious guy but we're not operating like the doj did under trump or the personal law firm but that's highly frustrating knowing everything we know about january 6th before, during and after the attack because essentially, you can look at the gop and they're thinking merrick garland is giving a pass saying hey, you aided and abetted to overturn an election and aided and abetted in protecting trump by not voting to convict him and his second impeachment trial a year ago this week, by refusing to hold him accountable,...