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Able-bodied, working age individuals. finally, our proposal really focuses on this incredible, high cost of insurance that people are faced with. the dublin rates of obamacare. what we do looking at these commended cbo score lowers the rates 30%. a couple years from now. that's what people are screaming about at home. the increasing rates and the projections for next year are even higher under obamacare. obamacare is a bust. it's going off a cliff. the democrats are saying, stay on board. we are trying to rescue the american people from this bust that they are on. >> no, we will can talk about...

Billion, so, there's more spending on medicaid. one thing that we're viewing this bill through the prism of is, we're cutting, we're taking away. but maybe we ought to be viewing this through the prism of, we overextended ourselves, we promised something that we can't afford and now we're having to do reforms to bring it in alignment with what we can actually deliver. another issue we're not talking about inside of medicaid is this. under the current medicaid system, you get more reimbursement for covering able-bodied people than you do for disabled people. one thing is true right now, under t...

And forth for the last couple weeks. we'll see when those are released whether or not that's enough to get those wary senators, the senators already opposed to that initial discussion draft in line, wolf. >> phil, thank you. phil mattingly on capitol hill. the new bill's effect on medicaid coverage is one of the biggest sticking points so far, but from the white house, we have heard two very different messages on the issue. >> these are not cuts to medicaid, george. this slows the rate for the future and it allows governors more flexibility with medicaid dollars because they're closest to th...

We've taken those people, put them back out in the private markets. medicaid should be for the exact people that you're talking about. it should be for the elderly, disabled and for folks who are single moms who are having children and are poor. that's what medicaid was designed to do. it should do that. and those who are able-bodied, the working portion should not be on medicaid. we should have a better system in the private market. >> those folks have been paying into medicaid all their lives and we're going to kick them off. this is savage. it's the epitome of modern republicanism and the p...

It is a tax cut bill. cuts taxes, a trillion dollars for the well thinkiest people in america. then to pay for that or pay for some of it, they're going to kick millions of people off medicaid. two-thirds of everyone in nursing homes in america is paid for by medicaid. 49% of the births is paid for by medicaid. so this is the republicans dream. this is why they become republicans, to kick some kid out of his wheelchair. >> paul. >> that's the point of being a republican, right? >> you very well know the cuts that are going to be happening to the medicaid program are not the disabled or elderly...