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In the state of delaware expect him to do about it? >> well, thomas what i think the folks of delaware are looking for tonight is a clear vision from the president about how we're going to be effective in competing, how we're going to win the future. i have been working hard in the lame duck session and now i look forward to working harder in the 112th congress to get us focused on things we need to do to make america successful at job creation. that means focusing on tax, trade policies, on education and innovation, ways to get back on track and being competitive globally. >> senator, i want ...

Flat across that time. they're not learning anymore. we're wasting a lot more money. >> reform takes money. in this economy, do we have the money to make the type of changes needed? >> well, you know, that's the open debate, where do you want to spend the money? taxing and spending. one, regardless of what washington does, this year is going to be one of revival because the business cycle, the private sector, is set to lift because of the whole bunch of business cycle dynamics that are outside the control of washington. interesting to see how it gets plays because they'll be blaming credit all...

Thing's happening in infrastructure, you're not having a huge demand to build like more superhighways at this moment. i'm not saying it's not a good idea for longer term but near term it's not there. on the education front, the challenge is, is not federal but state and local where all of the budgets are being cut. >> i agree, exactly. the big problem is state and local budgets. that's the lion's share of the spending and they're up against the wall, especially with the stimulus going away. increases in medicaid spending at the state -- at state level and you know, k through 12 education eats ...