Fragments that are breaking now, emily, talk to me about this as evidence in the case. >> emily: keep in mind that the suspect is facing federal charges and staging at the same time, in december he was indicted, penalty 20 years of federal attempted kidnapping of a federal officer as well as federal assault on the immediate family member of a federal employee or officer, that carries with it a potential penalty of 30 years in addition to that 20, and that is in addition to the six state charges that include assault and attempted kidnapping and more, so what we are looking at here is an absolut...