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Coming out. i think, again, michael avenatti has done such a stupendous job of this performance art. there is dvds and there is other stuff. and we might have something here. i think that part of what is so destabilizing about this is that he is playing donald trump's kind of truthiness game. we don't exactly know what is going on. but he is playing it better than donald trump. >> well, donald trump surely knows if he has other confidentiality agreements with other women with who he had sex with where there really was a paternity issue and whether he was involved in an abortion or paid for an ...

Paternity issue and whether he was involved in an abortion or paid for an abortion. he would know. he has figured it out that that would be the nuclear revelation that could occur in any one of these cases. he must know that. >> i think he knows that. and i think he also knows the minute he is deposed, he can't go for two minutes without saying something that is factually untrue. i think that the nuclear option is going to be the minute he gets deposed. he is going to say something, even if it doesn't get to your abortion scenario. he is going to say something. >> if he gets deposed about the ...