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They really think this could galvanize women, particularly the women in suburban areas some key congressional districts democrats would need to hold the house. you see that as harold mentioned already playing out in races around the country like in virginia where democrat terry mcauliffe is talking about how if a republican is elected, this too could happen in virginia. so they really see this as a strong issue. i think you are going to hear a lot more from them on that. >> chris: jonah, you know, i have always thought that abortion is an issue that animates the pro-choice -- no, the pro-life ...

Galvanize women, particularly the women in suburban areas some key congressional districts democrats would need to hold the house. you see that as harold mentioned already playing out in races around the country like in virginia where democrat terry mcauliffe is talking about how if a republican is elected, this too could happen in virginia. so they really see this as a strong issue. i think you are going to hear a lot more from them on that. >> chris: jonah, you know, i have always thought that abortion is an issue that animates the pro-choice -- no, the pro-life side more than the pro-choice...

Essentially this is about character to her. is it not then about character? is it not about on the micro level, what roy moore has been accused of, and what he allegedly has done? >> 100% character counts for sure. and then what i'm saying is, the culture at times, no pun intended, trumps some of that. and i think it is important to point out, if donald trump was, for example, go to trump for a moment, if he was a pro-choice candidate for president in the general election, he's not in the white house today. he loses. >> so you're saying that it sounds like the abortion stands from doug jones a...