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If the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health, but it gets worse, because health is broadly defined by the u.s. supreme court as all factors, physical, emotional, psychological, familial, a woman's age. now if the last part sounds ambiguous and open-ended, it is because it is. cardinal timothy dolan laid out just how gruesome this is writing the law, "to drop all charges against an abortionist who allows an aborted baby to somehow survive the scissors, scalpel, saline, dismemberment, to die before his eyes" before adding that the law even authorize nondoctors to perform ...

Really, you're supporting a month, you can have an abortion? when they can survive on their own? >> no, it is not infanticide, it is new york state upholding with the supreme court already ruled. >> sean: that is not true. >> it is actually true, it means that a mother can be punished under the penal code if she does have a late term abortion after 24 weeks. we know that 1% of abortions occur after 20 weeks. >> sean: that is not the point. this is now legal in new york, seventh, eighth, ninth month, you can have -- >> if a medical professional deems that the mother is in danger. >> there is a ...

Really, you're supporting eight months, you can have an abortion? when they can survive on their own? >> no, it is not infanticide, it is new york state upholding with the supreme court already ruled. the law in new york state, which was codified -- >> sean: that is not true. >> it is actually true, it means that a mother can be punished under the penal code if she does have a late term abortion after 24 weeks. we know that only 1% of abortions occur after 20 weeks. >> sean: i don't want the percentages. the fact that is legal. you are missings the point. this is now legal in new york. seventh...

That reenforce the order. that's where susan collins comes in. >> also the crazy corner they backed themselves into. we also want to believe survivors, everyone saying i believe something happened to her she's just wrong about -- >> to me, i wrote about this in new york magazine that reminds me of the logic of the anti-abortion movement, which is to say don't worry your pretty little head you don't know your own mind, i feel bad for you that -- you're the victim of the abortionist, but i'm not going to listen to you tell the truth about your own life. >> the reality is that we put so much fait...

Only women who tell us things that reenforce the order. that's where susan collins comes in. >> also the crazy corner they backed themselves into. we also want to believe survivors, everyone saying i believe something happened to her she's just wrong about -- >> to me, i wrote about this in new york magazine that reminds me of the logic of the anti-abortion movement, which is to say don't worry your pretty little head you don't know your own mind, i feel bad for you that -- you're the victim of the abortionist, but i'm not going to listen to you tell the truth about your own life. >> the reali...