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Case a long time? >> no. i just got a call from one of the ladies and i said i want to be here. >> tell me why it is important to you. >> well, phill kline is trying to do the right things for those that are hurting, and i support him for what he stands up for. >> when you say those that are hurting, tell me who you mean? >> well, the way i'm understanding it, the abortionists don't like what phyllis trying to get done. >> what do you think he is trying to get done? >> he is trying to clear the process, finding out to understand items from the past, trying to find out who some of the guilty pe...

>> have you been following the case a long time? >> no. i just got a call from one of the ladies and i said i want to be here. >> tell me why it is important to you. >> well, phill kline is trying to do the right things for those that are hurting, and i support him for what he stands up for. >> when you say those that are hurting, tell me who you mean? >> well, the way ooichl understanding it, the abortionists don't like what phyllis trying to get done. >> what do you think he is trying to get done? >> he is trying to clear the process, finding out to understand items from the past, trying to ...

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>> save these babies from certain death. >> it was a very interesting, elaborate sting operation. did you counsel him on that? >> i can't walk into a planned parenthood. i have been in the pro life movement for over 25 years. they have -- they will surely recognize me. here is this young, very bright, very courageous, very faithful young man mapping out this idea, and so we hit it off very, very well and we began to discuss all the various techniques he would use in order to infiltrate planned parenthood. >> did you all at that point start having planning discussions or sessions about how he w...

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