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Paul whelan's story inspired the film "lord of war" starring nicholas cage. >> i supplied every army but the salvation army. .>> reporter: what should people know about mr. bouit? >> he was a major threat toaur national security. >> reporter: former d.e.a. age robert zachariasiewicz was part of an international team that captured bout in thailand. he was later convicted on federal conspiracy charges to kill americans and to supply weapons to a terrorist group. zachariasiewicz told cbs news, a swap for the arms dealer would put americans at more risk. >> i believe we're sending the message that...

Messages be used against her in trial or on appeal if convicted? >> there have been some cases where out of court statements have been used against a defendant especially in sentencing. we just saw that here in new york with regard to the woman who was giving secrets to the terrorists. a absolutely can be used. >> during the trial now? >> we don't know if she is actually saying that. is this the new thing america your ryes brojuris prudence? >> jeff gold the first amendment can the judge stop ? she hasver right toblog. she is doing it to her friend. number one amendment now nothing the judge c...

Seemed to be unmanageable, other people have been irresponsible in politics that want to pass it to future generations. instead of thinking about now and doing something, showing lealeadership. that is why you see the excitement for the party. >> dana: empowerment group, started by jack kemp and inspired by ronald reagan. there are a lot of ideas that republicans and democrats can agree on; don't you think? >> bob: yeah. keep in mind talk ryan -- >> dana: let's not talk about that. >> bob: what is that? i mean he is taking on entitlements is fine. somebody has to take them on. but the problem ...