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Media. this was a marathon hearing. >> benghazi bust was the headline. >> right. and you had erik erikson saying the same thing. mike huckabee saying the same thing, saying it was, basically a net win for hillary. so i don't think that -- i really do believe that the people who didn't see this as hillary performing well, a, and the republicans performing ba y badly, it wasn't just a hillary performed well. it was they performed badly. are people who just really just hate hillary. like, i think they're incapable of seeing in front of them, which was that the republicans had this -- first of all...

>> she did not give them anything. >> another important thing is they really in my mind showed this is really a political issue. >> no, it is part of the process >> the obsessiveness about blumenthal and they will not release all of the scripts and e-mails, it is back to the 90s kind of stuff. you feel like --. >> but the washington insiders --. >> like watching what happened to bill clinton. >> and a lot of people are wondering, though. the weapon were weapon said 5 -- washington post/abc news poll said 53 percent thing she is hide something. >> it is a problem of trust and i don't think the ...

Up demoted in the state department for having transgressed against the secretary. and yet, they go ahead, they put susan rice on that weekend. and tell a tale that is completely false. spontaneous demonstration, out of control, et cetera, of the video. i think that's where the emphasis ought to be. i think a.b. is right. the judge said there are three audiences, the main audience that matters unless she's indicted, is the people. american people watching this. they don't care about blumenthal. she had her way, when she lowered her voice, and talked about the sleepless nights, it was a gripping...

Reports from sydney blumenthal things that he was developing on his own, things that he had a direct pipeline to the secretary of state. she was sending them on to her close foreign policy adviser and saying get this around. and on that benghazi account of what happened she sent it to him and said get this around asap. on one occasion she even wanted information passed on to the white house about blumenthal was sending her about a possible way mitt romney and the republicans could attack obama. that's kind of funny because what the obama white house didn't want they didn't want blumenthal at t...

These e-mails you might. what i thought was most significant about blumenthal's involvement and that's a name from the past and i'm sure it will be a name for the 2016 cycle again, i thought it was significant he was apparently writing memos she would read and then recirculate without reference to the fact he had authored them. >> yeah. >> i guess because he contained some baggage and for whatever reason they didn't want whatever the message was to be tarred by the individual who wrote them. >> do you think going forward then considering you think there's no smoking gun and that these are sort...