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Have to make up for that. but as he said he doesn't make policy and it is all coming from the white house anyway. i think it is just all around an in auspicious beginning for a new secretary. >> you live outside the beltway. is any of this about hagel's comments and benghazi and the e-mails, is any of that penetrating in the real world? >> i think it is. i think the hearings were so bad that this cut through out of the town and into where average folks are asking questions. it is an impossibility for the white house to say with a straight face this is a the best choice at a critical time for c...

Votes against him and he will have to make up for that. but as he said he doesn't make policy and it is all coming from the white house anyway. i think it is just all around an in auspicious beginning for a new secretary. >> you live outside the beltway. is any of this about hagel's comments and benghazi and the e-mails, is any of that penetrating in the real world? >> i think it is. i think the hearings were so bad that this cut through out of the town and into where average folks are asking questions. it is an impossibility for the white house to say with a straight face this is a the best c...

Have to make up for that. but as he said he doesn't make policy and it is all coming from the white house anyway. i think it is just all around an in auspicious beginning for a new secretary. >> you live outside the beltway. is any of this about hagel's comments and benghazi and the e-mails, is any of that penetrating in the real world? >> i think it is. i think the hearings were so bad that this cut through out of the town and into where average folks are asking questions. it is an impossibility for the white house to say with a straight face this is a the best choice at a critical time for c...

It can overcome the money. >> sflor, thank you very much for joining us from connecticut. >> thank you. >> and the secretary of state john kerry is about to leave for his first trip to foreign capitals. we'll preview the challenges that await him with former defense secretary william cohen and talk about hagel. and, later, britain's ambassador to the united states am. >> plus, monday join us live from london. we'll take the show on the road with secretary kerry. that's monday at 1:00 eastern only on andrea mitchell reports. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] what's the point of an epa estimated 42 mil...

>> gentlemen, let's talk about chuck hagel. i was surprised at how republicans threw another republican under the bus today, especially the exchange between mccain and chuck hagel. howard, what did you think of that? >> well, i think there's a lot of republican resentment about hagel. and i will say this. i think the administration, if they want to protect chuck hagel, they'd better come out and do it right away. i think he had a pretty rough time. unfairly so in many respects. he's talking about a new world that we know exists. you can beat up on chuck hagel all you want. i think the basic pr...