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Surrogate. >> it was a little bit of a surprise. president trump said a couple of days ago she should have listened to me. he kind of took that and went to the next step. i covered him during the midterms. the donald trump jr. rally is just like the trump rally but smaller. there are people enthusiastic for him. there is the lock her up chant. he was just like his dad. i'm the fighter. my dad is the fighterme. we are fighting for you. we will see that again later this year starting next year. >> and because of his own political ambitions too. >> he may not be the next one. this new book out fr...

Soon. >> that's why these stories, they're not just talking about what the president did but also the existence of these memos, that there are things on paper they can find, and the fact that there are clearly people out there who want it known that there are memos floating around that could get into the details. we just don't know about kushner. >> these things don't fall from the sky. let me read quickly from "the times" report. trump's position in may so troubled officials that at least one, white house chief of staff at the time, john kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how ...

The "washington post" reported last year or the year before there were concerns that at least four countries talked about their potential ability with jared kushner over his financial concerns. nothing will happen if this goes sideways. >> this is the apparent new order living in washington now that democrats have authority in the house. they just stick their head in the sand every time questions are raised about ability at the white house. a letter just sent by elijah cummings, chairman of the oversight committee, if true, these new reports raise grave questions about what derogatory informat...

Specifically on the allegations but they are doubling down on the president's right to do this. but that doesn't answer any of these questions about what exactly is in kushner's background and why the president did this, specifically for his son-in-law, for a family member. there are some questions being raised already about the concerns about nepotism that have dogged this white house from the very beginning, john. >> and why he said -- you're right, he has the power. why did he say he had nothing to do with it? abby phillip, i appreciate you live with me in the studio. olivia knox with siriu...

>> did you tell general kelly or anyone else in the white house to -- >> no, i don't think i have the authority to do that. i'm not sure i do. but i wouldn't do it. jared is a good -- i was never involved with his security. i know that he -- just from reading i know that there was issues back and forth about security for numerous people actually. but i don't want to get involved in that stuff. >> the "washington post" says that kushner's wife pressured the president about kushner's clearance. she was asked about it on abc just last month. >> the president had no involvement pertaining to my cl...