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>> yeah, well, lawrence first of all, tess may remember this. president erdogan was raising this case with president obama towards the end of our administration and saying we don't get involved in these investigations. if you pick up a rock in this administration, you find co corruption under it as we've seen corruption in the effort to pressure ukraine to leverage u.s. assistance to pressure ukraine to investigate trump's political opponents, we see clearly in the story the president of the united states interfering in an on going investigation into a violation of iran sanctions which he clai...

And the whole chunk of europe working for president trump. we do know, though, that she wasn't there when the phone call was made to the ukrainian president but it doesn't matter, she was there when every other phone call was made between president trump and president putin. those are important calls. we also have reason to believe that some of those calls perhaps with other officials like turkey, which she may, may or may not have been privy to, she may have been privy to not because she had direct responsibility for turkey, although i think she did but touched upon russia, russia, syria. so ...

She no longer works in the administration. administration has no control over her and fiona hill will show up. >> right. i think that's actually good news. she's seen a lot in her time as the senior director for russia and the whole chunk of europe working for president trump. we do know, though, that she wasn't there when the phone call was made to the ukrainian president but it doesn't matter, she was there when every other phone call was made between president trump and president putin. those are important calls. we also have reason to believe that some of those calls perhaps with other off...

Putin. although she may have spoken to the interpreter i believe she speaks russian fluently so she could have been privy to a little more information on that. but certainly on syria. again, i wonder what did vladimir putin ask president trump to do with regard to syria? because you might not have notice this had, lawrence, but on the day our president announced that we were going to withdraw from syria, it was actually vladimir putin's birthday. it was, in a weird way kind of a gift to vladimir putin and i think it was making good on some kind of conversation they had about syria because trum...

Trump to do with regard to syria? because you might not have notice this had, lawrence, but on the day our president announced that we were going to withdraw from syria, it was actually vladimir putin's birthday. it was, in a weird way kind of a gift to vladimir putin and i think it was making good on some kind of conversation they had about syria because trump always said right from the beginning, trump said we're getting out of syria. clearly, russia stands to benefit from that as does assad, syria and iran. >> make a note of that, future historians. it was vladimir putin's birthday. evelyn ...