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Their pensions? of course, that the paint frankly in my mind is over. it's no longer in this country about vax are not facts, because millions of americans they have made up their mindup and did not agree with joe biden for whatever reason. we have that debate. that's their choice. we live in a free society and their decision. there has got to be a way to thread the needle. all of these people willing to sacrifice their jobs, their pay, their benefits, their pensions, their careers, they must believe pretty strongly in their position. make no mistake, thousands of cops, nurses, first responder...

Head on. whether you're talking aboutad michelle obama or melania trumpe i think we should not talk about them. >> dana: this librarian that did this open letter, we wouldn't have known about this, but she sort of pushed it out into the open. and then the first lady's office responded. leslie, why does the left make it so easy for the right to get outraged? >> well, maybe -- i don't know, because we're talking about it. first of all, this librarian, i'm from boston. and you know that, dana. cambridge port, where she is and where that school is, is an extremely wealthy school district where mos...