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>> does that tape trouble you? >> what troubles me is the double standard in justice. i think he deserves the presumption of innocence. he has not made his case. i think we need to wait, but i do think as soon as trump does something it's automatically he's guilty. if biden does it, it's automatically he's innocent. >> there are big differences between the two cases. without getting into the what aboutism game. >> it is the game. >> it isn't necessarily the game. he's talking on the tape he's saying i could have declassified this as president. now i can't. he's showing it to people without a s...

The end but we are not going to prosecute. so, this does drive democrats crazy, they call it what aboutism, but it is in fact a precedent, not an exact precedent. as far as what trump is doing, if you look in the indictment, there is special emphasis on papers that were actually picked up by the fbi during that infamous raid on august 8th of last year, the search warrant raid on mar-a-lago, and those being papers that trump had defiantly kept after being asked to return them, after getting a subpoena to return them, and after resisting a great amount. so, the indictment focuses on the papers t...

When are folks to going realize bullies only respect strength. as winston churchill said, appeasement is feeding a crocodile, hoping it eats you last. >> they should stand up for real believes but i want to point out and i think this is a tell, jim, they are all doing, ron desantis and all of the other republican candidates, kevin mccarthy, they're making an argument that is not defending and they're making it a what aboutism argument. the justice department has two standards after jude kating the law which is deflecting away from trump did. they're not even trying to defend trump and i think ...

What trump -- trump was leading chants of lock her up with hillary clinton and what mike pence was excused by, because this is not just the crime. it is the cover-up. as the indictment makes very clear. and so, you know, if folks -- it is just another example why you need the context. context is key to understanding anything. if there is a willful disregard of that, then we need to hammer home the fact that is not a case about what aboutism. that is not nothing to do with the facts in this case. >> since we're looking ahead to the arraignment on tuesday and trump is saying i'll see you in miam...

The wagons, this is political. they have no charges, look at hillary clinton. and then after it's marinated on, they think, waits a second, it was donald trump's administration that didn't prosecute hillary clinton. and these documents are pretty important documents. you will see people's minds change. you'll see them go up and down. in fact, we're already seeing this in iowa and new hampshire while he's still in the majority, his numbers have been trending down pretty steadily for the last several weeks. >> yeah. the only thing we know for sure is that we don't know for sure. eric, aaron, tha...