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Then-candidate was saying, let's do this all aboveboard, is not how this went down. we're obviously not going to know without hearing this. the conversation is short. it's around two minutes long. it cuts off at some point before the conversation is done. there are portions of it that are apparently inaudible in the transcript. and it will, you know, i think it will have to be heard, you know, by any of us to really understand what's being said. but what it clearly does, as you say, is undercut what the campaign told "the wall street journal" in october of 2016 which is that they knew nothing ...

James bond movies but won't they be spying on each other? will our intel agencies be keeping extra close track of him and might he do something suspicious here, or is this all aboveboard and i shouldn't be looking for some subtext? >> any time you get two delegations from opposing countries like this, that do not share the same security interests in a given region, obviously we're going to be mindful of that and we're going to be paying attention to them. certainly there will be some sort of surveillance done. probably by their side too. that's kind of the way it works. so i wouldn't say it is...

To see is tax records. the whole shebang could be in this office. >> right. the arguments of deep state. the arguments of witch-hunt. the argument of a witch-hunt was already dead ages and ages ago. but now you have a situation where the president's personal lawyer, the man as we've all been talking about since the news broke who knows more about donald trump than anybody else. maybe even his family. >> he calls him at midnight. that's the kind of guy. >> right. and so now the feds have gone in with the search warrant. and we need to talk more about just how extraordinary all the hoops they ha...

Up a secret back-channel because there has been a history where transition president elects and administration to be reach out to former contacts and former interlockers. if it was done open and aboveboard, the last administration would have been pleased to assist with this if, in fact, it were legitimate and aboveboard. this, again, is a bad optic in my view, and maybe there wasn't anything nefarious discussed, but it certainly doesn't have very good appearance. >> director, the president was asked about russian interference in the 2016 election yesterday. this is what he said. >> well, the r...

>>, by the way, and i know you're going to get to this, this memo that's been outlined by members of congress, a lot of people have made allegations, allegations in the press by members of congress and by the administration. we want justice that's aboveboard. we know that there was political influence that impacted the decisions of james comey the last fbi director. >> how do you know? >> he said so under oath. he said that he changed the way in which he called the hillary clinton investigation, what he publicly called it rather than a criminal probe which is what it was. he changed the nature...