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Neutrality that is necessary for "60 minutes" to exist when this is the background context. >> well, this is precisely the point that bill keller and again greenwald were bouncing back and forth when they did their dialogue in the "times." >> bill keller, formally with "the new york times." >> but obviously, this statement of lara's, and this is going to become more and pore apparent, raises the stakes even more for the importance of cbs to be transparent about just how the vetting process was done. i mean, this is ultimately a failure of good journalism. it's an abrogation of the verification...

Up all the democrats who ever signed a discharge petition when mrs. pelosi was speaker, they're now called former members because it doesn't go over very well. and the same thing with the discharge petition. now, that is an abrogation of the legislative process. it's not the way that things are supposed to get done. and it would be just as disloyal of these 20 republicans as it is disloyal of these 25 nuts that are holding the country hostage. >> when we think about how this is going to get resolved, i feel like i'm not a great predictor in politics. if you go back and look at my predictions, ...

Republicans. democrats, i feel like, believe it's an abrogation of the governing process to let this happen at the end of a barrel of a gun. therefore, i really see the only solution as some sort of clean resolution being passed. >> i do disagree with you. i would just go back when president obama was senator obama. he didn't think he was going to vote and didn't vote to raise the debt limit. you know -- >> but there was no chance that we were going to be up against the debt limit when he did that. >> well, but you know what? that's an answer without an answer. i mean, either we pay the debts ...

That you could conceivably have in this case. you have multiple murder, terrorist murder, murder of a police officer and child murder. a week ago today, there was something your viewers didn't see. they didn't see the private funeral of martin richard, the 8-year-old who was blown to bits by a shrapnel-packed bomb these bombers created. a society without the moral competence to impose the ultimate punishment for a crime like this is a society that has turned its back on a crime that shakes the foundation of civilized life and a society without that moral competence in the context of the death ...

They didn't see the private funeral of martin richard, the 8-year-old who was blown to bits by a shrapnel-packed bomb these bombers created. a society without the moral competence to impose the ultimate punishment for a crime like this is a society that has turned its back on a crime that shakes the foundation of civilized life and a society without that moral competence in the context of the death penalty probably has forfeited its moral competence all together. >> okay. alan dershowitz, it would be an abrogation of moral competence if america doesn't execute dzhokhar tsarnaev. what's your re...