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Provide a car, provide a private plane, to post bail, then to accept someone who is absconding from horrific crimes, murder and rape in these cases, that takes sophisticated support. that's precisely what it seems the saudis have provided with no repercussions from the trump administration. >> and this preceded the ca ed khashoggi case but shows why the saudi regime can get away with murder. >> they face no consequences on the world stage. and far from facing no consequences, they've actually gotten the green light from the trump administration in just about everything they've asked. look at t...

Constitution. you don't have to do the address. you can submit it in writing. but do you think that this has gotten so bad, senator, obviously lindsey graham wants the president to end with this sophomoric behavior, do you? >> i'd say the president's response is regarding negotiation. if you're not in town, you're absconding without doing any negotiating. so really i think that's the way the discussion and debate should be framed. republicans i think are willing to compromise on this. i'm one that would split the difference. other republicans have said the same thing. president hasn't yet said...

Administration says that because each of those court rulings only banned one thing, the more recent court ruling essentially trumps. they do get to keep families in detention as long as they're detaining them together. >> and this is the choice from the beginning. the entire argument has been, we either have to separate families and prosecute everyone or hold them in indefinite detention. no one is making them hold people. in fact they're explicitly prohibited from doing so by the flores court consent decree, right? >> right. there are multiple alternatives to detention that the administration...

Detention as long as they're detaining them together. >> and this is the choice from the beginning. the entire argument has been, we either have to separate families and prosecute everyone or hold them in indefinite detention. no one is making them hold people. in fact they're explicitly prohibited from doing so by the flores court consent decree, right? >> right. there are multiple alternatives to detention that the administration had done before this or using in small degrees while they try detain as many as possible. the only reason they'll stop people there coming to the u.s. or absconding...

[laughter] that's pretty strong. i reincorporate that comment. >> laura: he re-incorporates comment. i don't know if he meant reiterates. i couldn't follow it. this is a wild situation. we have dangerous criminals that ice is trying to apprehend and we have mayors here in oakland tonight, libby shaft warning people leave. some violent offenders are absconding, probably because they heard the rates are coming. who's to blame here? >> look, i'm a first generation american. my mother is an immigrant to this great country and i happen to think immigrants enrich us. they make us a stronger, better ...