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Paintings in a reallyjoyful way. you're like, "these are great paintings!" yeah, because as an artist, i believe my eye. then, i found myself in the world of orientalist or the patterns or the tiles or the carpets as a piece of an artwork, as already so important as it is. genuinely, you're sort of like, there's a respect for that tradition which you feel deeply. i do. i respect arts — that's why, maybe, yeah. i love the playfulness of ardan�*s work. there's a real coming together of worlds here, of different layers — her fascination with the repetition and abstraction of islamic art, th...

At historical western art will find all of these quite familiar, but in a very broad, generic fashion. yes. different centuries have different motifs and different colours and they all have an idea, they all want to say something. this looks like a hummingbird. i think so. here's the beak. yeah, and the flower. yeah. but, of course, it's also just an abstract geometric motif. and there is this tension, if you like, isn't there, in islamic art, when it comes to representing living things? yeah, i think this abstraction comes out of it. you can say it's a bird but you cannot be sure of it. and s...

Together of worlds here, of different layers — her fascination with the repetition and abstraction of islamic art, the way she embraces and evolves that vexed orientalist world view by looking at it through the warholian lens of a pop art sensibility. all that, for me, really encapsulates what i've been discovering — the complexity of the exchange between east and west. before i came here, orientalism — in my mind, at least — was almost this dirty word that was synonymous somehow with western exploitation of the islamic world. what i hadn't realised, though, was the extent to which tur...

Motifs and different colours and they all have an idea, they all want to say something. this looks like a hummingbird. i think so. here's the beak. yeah, and the flower. yeah. but, of course, it's also just an abstract geometric motif. and there is this tension, if you like, isn't there, in islamic art, when it comes to representing living things? yeah, i think this abstraction comes out of it. you can say it's a bird but you cannot be sure of it. and such a good example of repetition, right? yeah. that's the key to it, isn't it? it's also a sort of wonderful expression somehow of society beca...

Showing me all of that. shall i tell you what i find quite surprising? orientalism — it feels like something that today people are so critical of but you're engaging with some orientalist paintings in a reallyjoyful way. you're like, "these are great paintings!" yeah, because as an artist, i believe my eye. then, i found myself in the world of orientalist or the patterns or the tiles or the carpets as a piece of an artwork, as already so important as it is. genuinely, you're sort of like, there's a respect for that tradition which you feel deeply. i do. i respect arts — that's why, maybe, ...