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I'm not saying that the entire cia programme was justifiable. no, because you warned yourself of abusive drift, and you talked about how some interrogators would threaten the terror suspects they were interrogating with a handgun or a power drill... they did things that were not authorised, like taking people's elbows together and raising them above their head, and some things that should not have ever happened, because i think they were not reviewed by thejustice department, and, in my view, violated the law. and then we saw of course the abu ghraib prison scandal 2004 in iraq by military pol...

I'm not going to try to argue them out of their position. here's the thing to remember. in those circumstances where there are catastrophic attacks coming, and there were catastrophic attacks coming, and the people are withholding the information, we were under no obligation to allow them to withhold that information and kill thousands of americans. and the way the current setup is is we are dependent entirely on the voluntary statements. so you say that it was entirely justifiable? i'm not saying that the entire cia programme was justifiable. no, because you warned yourself of abusive drift, ...