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Personal grievance. people who have consumed conspiracy theories on -- in certain online forums and places on the internet are motivated to take matters into their own hands and strike out violently. that's what you saw today -- um -- with as deeply divided as we are right now and with as many conspiracy theories and false -- false theories that we have rolling around out there, i think you are going to see more of it. >> is there a principle of c conflation or combining that with people see what's happening in afghanistan. whether they're, you know, veterans or they're just sympathizers for t...

Benefit from them, or is it somehow better to separate immigration and i.c.e.? >> well, i.c.e. is not strictly an immigration force. it is a criminal illegal alien deportation force. i think the vast majority of the people that i.c.e. deals with are not, you know, these families at the border that are being separated. though, they have been linked to that. what they are really is they go through the interior of the country and they search for people who are criminal illegal aliens, often many illegal aliens who have been deported several times and have committed felonies or gang members like m...

Conflation, i'm personal and don't like talking to the media with the exception of you here. >> i appreciate it. >> i think that's been conflated to say our team works that way. that's not the case at all. we have a team that works really well together and i'm really proud of that and we all have shared goals and hold each other accountable. that had to change and hasn't always be the case but that's absolutely critical or we wouldn't be able to execute this quickly. >> it's interesting. it's there the idea -- it is. it absolutely -- >> it's a little depressing it. >> it is. so -- sad loaner l...