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Criticism the justice is a c a bal. what do you think this remarks suggest? >> it's a great question. i think first of all perhaps most surprisingly the justices are reading their criticisms. part of why i think we haven't seen this before is because we've assumed the justices paid no mind to folks like us, but also i think what it suggests they actually see the decline in approval polls and they are worried. they should. because the court's legitimacy and power really depends not on any police force, the supreme court doesn't have a military, it depends on the notion that we accept what they'...

Keep convincing me not to do it. >> so what are the chance that's the president overrules his legal team and actually talks with mueller? >> difficult to predict anything with this president. he's been known to overrule advice of experts around him multiple times, but it does appear that the president and his team are worried that robert mueller is really zeroing in on his presidency and they're trying to cast this as an issue for the presidency and get his base to rally around him and say this is a corrupt justice department trying to take down a president and trying to overturn the will of t...