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Again, they're inexperienced, i understand this, but common sense would say, there is something about this that isn't right, and this is not a meeting we should have. >> hold on one second. bring bob baer into this. former cia operative. bob, in the e-mail chain, it clearly identifies the russian attorney as "the" russian government attorney. she was -- interviewed. she de nigh denies this. she's a russian attorney. talk about cutouts if you will, because in a situation, a sensitive situation, issue like this, the russian government, the russian intelligence community, would not necessarily em...

When i was operating in this country, they asked me to get in touch with all kinds of high level individuals. that wasn't possible, so carter page was most likely a very inviting target. >> if you look at someone like carter page, i cannot suggesting he did anything wrong, the fbi will figure that out, that would be someone in the intel business called an access agent. not someone who can tell you about the campaign, what are the issues, where is the party and the presidential candidate going on those issues. even down to tactical questions, where can we meet people, where do they congregate, ...