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Nichols wrote. so what i see in their defense is both this, he speaks to, about political speech, and the other, i think it's just sidney powell's lawyers arguing no one thought she was telling the truth. i mean, lou dobbs and maria bartiromo did. >> yeah. it's pretty stunning. i mean -- it's hard to know where to start. i'd pick up on accountability argument. that the former congresswoman was making. i mean, i think we all want a mesh every of accountability and all hoped for a deeper measure of accountability. but really the gull to watch sidney powell, rg rg, the my pillow guy make these ar...

The pentagon has -- >> can i ask you though, the question that needs to be asked, had you not done it, had the government done that which you did over in iraq, would that have cost more or less? >> well, that was extensively studied by the gao, the congressional budget office, all the rest, and they found the price we charged was significantly cheaper. i think it was about a third of what it would have cost the federal government, state department in this case, of doing that job or even if the military was assigned to do it. it would have taken soldiers away from doing an offensive mission and...