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To make air time and made baseless claims. yes, they were challenged, but the fact that they were without any credentials other than supporting donald trump, there were people watching at home, thinking, that trump surrogate makes some good points. there may be headlines that have to be published now that are donald trump falsely claims x. i think we have to be willing to do that -- >> there was a lot of that in the last few months of the campaign, it's hard to see what good it did. >> it was a little too little too late, you could argue. it was baked in he built the idea that the media's not ...

You had surrogates who were able to make air time and made baseless claims. yes, they were challenged, but the fact that they were without any credentials other than supporting donald trump, there were people watching at home, thinking, that trump surrogate makes some good points. there may be headlines that have to be published now that are donald trump falsely claims x. i think we have to be willing to do that -- >> there was a lot of that in the last few months of the campaign, it's hard to see what good it did. >> it was a little too little too late, you could argue. it was baked in he bui...