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Service. his resignation, though, does not absolve the president of his responsibility to step in and make things right for our veterans. business as usual cannot continue. >> putting this right on the doorstep of president obama. >> that's right. what's interesting is that democrats actually are ready to have an argument over veterans health care. now that the accountability issue is sort of taken off the table that shinseki has stepped aside, they feel like if there's an argument right now about providing health care to veterans. they have a better argument funding va medical centers. that's...

Companies to bid on a search. they are estimating a budget for both jobs but companies bidding on those jobs will certainly want to see the data for themselves because they're going to submit a bid to see if they can actually find the plane and without a doubt there will be a success component in the contract. you find the plane there will be more reward. >> do you think the private companies might do a better job? >> i do. just because they have had so much experience. i think the private companies will do a better job. >> and real quick before we go, it just makes you think that there is sti...

Ones who are not doing their job. it has to change the way we do business. it's not set up efficiently to have so many government workers who do a great job or a poor job. can't get rid of you. >> it's not a money issue. 2008, their outlays were about $45 billion. in 2013, the outlay became 154 billion. you're saying it's not a money issue. it's an accountability issue. >> you're absolutely right. it's not a money issue. they have plenty of money to do their job. it's a mentality issue. there's no sense of urgency at the va. they're just not performing. so it's not a money issue. it's a cultur...

Washington. it is all points and all them saying hillary clinton is the person responsible. they made huge mistakes and no republicans and no word if petraeus is being held accountable. there were problems. the state department did not provide resources there and secretary kerry reinstated the employees that had been suspended for not responding to requests for more security in benghazi. both sides are not addressing the real issues here. >> i want to turn to you. we talk about hillary clinton in 2016. how does this impact the white house president obama heading into 2014. they spent a fair am...

Associated press reporters who broke the story and here with me now. did i get that right in the intro? >> absolutely. >> take me back to 2010 when you first learned about his true identity and what led up to this week. >> figuring out bob was working with the cia was the first step but reflecting the calculus on whether to hold that story versus the story we ultimately ran is very different. the reason this story was important and the accountability issue behind the story we ultimately ran dass -- >> the bungled mission. >> that a u.s. citizen was put in harm's way by elements of its governme...