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We've taken away from this fight against the don't say gay bill is we have to tackle these head on and call them what they are and name them in the context as you're doing and harken back to where these things came from. there is a reason that keep in mind it's not just that is the office of the governor, of the third largest state in the union, accusing floridians, a majority of whom don't support this bill, of being pedophiles. the reason that that stings so much to our community is because they are the same and dangerous tropes that have been used to justify discrimination and violence agai...

Indoctrine nation. >> signing the bigoted don't say gay law into effect yesterday. the ceo of the public religion research institute and author of "white too long" in american christianity. the law that was signed, the don't say gay law that was signed, it doesn't even track with what floridians think about lgbtq issues, non-discrimination laws and religious based refusals opposed by 66% of americans and 66% of floridians, same-sex marriage supported by two-thirds of floridians. so there isn't an actual constituency demanding this. in your view, what's the point? >> well, thank you so much for...

About everyone. it's definitely not about people that look like me and not about brandon. it is about white christians and getting them all ginned up for this election. your thoughts? >> well, you know, i think that's dead on. i think you're right to telescope us back both in time and kind of widen the lens so it's a little whiplash look back at 2004. what is strikingly different, in 2004, most americans did actually oppose marriage equality. today, it's nearly 7 in 10 americans and floridians so desantis has this big speech about i don't care what corporations say whatever. he might want to c...