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So they are saying because eric holder signs off on an fbi subpoena and then he says i never even heard of it. never been involved in it. never heard of it. nothing. they say it is consistent because he never brought charges. you thoughts? >> a clinton-like hair splitting defense that doesn't even work on its own terms. he didn't say he never heard of a prosecution. he said he never heard of a potential prosecution. and getting a search warran ses the first step you take when you are going to engage in a prosecution. they told the federal court that is the reason they needed this information. ...

He is the top in this country. recuse himself write a memo saying why so everybody knows it number two, it isn't about national security with james rosen. it's about accusing rosen in a stupid affidavit which i hope you have read it's stupid of being part of a conspiracy to out a source in north korea. when everybody knows that's hellacious and dumb yet he signed off on it come on. >> let me respond here. one, this is really an outrage to call any journalist but especially james rosen who has a lifelong career in journalism and works for a mainstream news organization. here is the thing, bill....

>> bill: he is not a judge. he is the top in this country. recuse himself write a memo saying why so everybody knows it number two, it isn't about national security with james rosen. it's about accusing rosen in a stupid affidavit which i hope you have read it's stupid of being part of a conspiracy to out a source in north korea. when everybody knows that's hellacious and dumb yet he signed off on it come on. >> let me respond here. one, this is really an outrage to call any journalist but especially james rosen who has a lifelong career in journalism and works for a mainstream news organizati...

>> bill: he is not a judge. he is the top in this country. recuse himself write a memo saying why so everybody knows it number two, it isn't about national security with james rosen. it's about accusing rosen in a stupid affidavit which i hope you have read it's stupid of being part of a conspiracy to out a source in north korea. when everybody knows that's hellacious and dumb yet he signed off on it come on. >> let me respond here. one, this is really an outrage to call any journalist but especially james rosen who has a lifelong career in journalism and works for a mainstream news organizati...

I didn't know all that stuff about accusing rosen of being a criminal. what do you think? >> the only thing criminal about james rosen is, perhaps, his woody allen impersonation. >> awful. other than that, he seems to be on the level on this. holder can say whatever he wants. but the reporters in this town know what that what was done here was egregious and that somebody is going to have to pay and it may be the attorney general himself. >> maybe holder was just asleep when they taught that at columbia claw school. i don't know. chris styer walt. good to see you. >> other developments ongoing ...