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You needed to start putting down a written record? >> the nature the person. so why did he kick everybody out of the oval office? why are would kick the attorney general, the president, the achiev chief of staff out to talk to me if it is about something else? >> quite frankly the president has informed around 6 billion people that he's not real fond of this investigation do you think there is a difference in that? >> yes. >> okay. >> a big difference in kicking superior officers out the oval officer, look the fbi director in the eye and saying hope you let this go. i think if the agents as go...

>> you do? >> i know it's hard to understand intentionality from president putin. that's a very hard analytic problem. but i -- you know, i've watched putin, i know what his attitudes are towards trump. he likes trump because trump supports policies he supports. and he dislikes secretary clinton, and i've heard him talk about her directly, because he doesn't like the policies she had. there should be no confusion that the wikileaks data dump hurt secretary clinton. and therefore, helped president -- then candidate trump. there is no other way to understand that. that came from the russians. an...

But questions remain about whether it's over-arching goal can be achievable, ever be achiev achieved. yoin joining us live today is melissa harris-perry, professor of political science at tulane. melissa, i understand, in your upcoming column you're going to address this and you were skeptical about this movement and its effectiveness but now they've gone global. what do you think now? >> i am going to be talking about this a bit in my next nation piece trying to think about models of leadership and whether or not a movement which this has become, it started out demonstration but in the intern...

You, going to prison for 27 years, so in fact the 67 minutes to have mandela day of giving service and community service is the 67 years he's given service to the country. >> it sounds like this is definitely and again things are going to be more low-key but this sounds like quintessential mandela. don't celebrate, don't throw a party. go out there and serve. >> and looking at a man who has really turned a nightmare into a dream, a dream into a vision, and a vision into a reality, i mean look at the world cup, and a man who has suffered. he's had two sons die, the first son died while he was i...

Are once bold and pragmatic and this is a goal that can be achiev achieved. >> however, not everyone believes on obama's recent deal-making on nuclear summit. >> this idea, though, that somehow this agreement with the russians will somehow be motivating to north korea, iran, other countries that are moving syria, that have nuclear ambitions, it's pure foolishness. it's just foolish. again, this is also a bit dwegsary from 9.7% unemployment in this country and multi-trillion dollar debts. >> okay. >> mike barnicle, i was about to ask, is this guy running for president of the united states again...