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>> he talked about raising rates through the roof. we've been in freefall since. >> charles as you know, we know we have to have higher rates. we had to unwind the long-term balance sheet of the fed. you can't keep it. you'll have the acid bubble. so to blame it on powell -- there's some impact, no doubt. but you know, if he's going -- if the president is going to blame it on powell, he should have taken it on the chin himself. his tariffs are costing this market as well. >> i've heard more about the dollar, wages and other things than tariffs. >> talk to ford. talk to intel. they had earnings...

He wanted to raise taxes when he got in there. the republicans prevented him from doing that. i think when you take a president that wants to raise taxes in the face of fiscal financial stress of the country, the markets say this guy doesn't have a clue. then they say who has a clue to get the economy growing? the feds will keep printing money. that's what the market will say. >> they prefer that over what will de wean us. >> remember when paul voker de weaned us? that's the one example i can theng of. greenspan did it when he was chairman in 1994. in the late 70s and early 80s it was worse. t...