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Right? and the fbi said no, we don't. >> really? >> i knew what steve was saying. the other people in the room might have believed the fbi, but why can't we get truth? to me the truth is the' piece of all good. i would like to know a lot of times the truth, and there is closeness and openness. openness is share a lot of the truth and i'm pretty much far out on the open side. i don't want to say i'm absolute is 100% one way or another. i want to find the dividing line. when you talk about the nsa and richard snowden. >> edward. >> it's government three letter agency and lie and hold things secr...

To steal secrets and steve said we do the same thing spying, right? and the fbi said no, we don't. >> really? >> i knew what steve was saying. the other people in the room might have believed the fbi, but why can't we get truth? to me the truth is the' piece of all good. i would like to know a lot of times the truth, and there is closeness and openness. openness is share a lot of the truth and i'm pretty much far out on the open side. i don't want to say i'm absolute is 100% one way or another. i want to find the dividing line. when you talk about the nsa and richard snowden. >> edward. >> it'...