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Vote. call that the other vote. >> this is how the founders set it up. we do abide by the electoral college. you don't have to like it. >> i'm excited about that. perhaps the electoral college will do what hamilton and the other founder fathers saw as the role of the electoral college, to keep a sociopath from gaining the office of president. >> if they don't reach the threshold, it goes to the house. >> are you pinning hope on that? >> there is in hope. i think he'll be sworn in. i think there is a big point here, which is that the electoral college, which donald trump won, is really an acrea...

Trump won, is really an acreage game. we have this winner one based on acreage not on population of this country. >> but that doesn't speak at all to why the democrats didn't win. pennsylvania specifically. >> i'm not arguing that this is what happened. this is what happen and we should have run a better game against the acreage issue. but you know, this is something that we have to think about in terms of whether the electoral college serves our country when so many people live in urban areas, and -- or whether this is a completely outdated mode of elections. >> all right. so you can hear the...

270. it goes to the house. >> are you pinning your hopes on that? >> no. i don't think there is any hope. i think he will be sworn in. the big point here is that the electoral college, which donald trump won, is really an acreage game. we have this winner who won based on acreage, not on population of this country. >> but that doesn't speak at all to why the democrats didn't win pennsylvania specifically. >> i'm not arguing that this is what happened. this is what happened and we should have run a better game against the acreage issue. but, you know, this is something that we all need to think...