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Anwr there is wilderness. there is refuge area. there are some more beautiful more san ic landscapes to look at. the 1002 area the 1.5 million acres set aside for the oil and gas development, including the 2,000 acres needed for the footprint for the development, that's the barren remoteness that you are looking at. >> greta: you don't have a sense of how big this is unless you come up and look q >> absolutely that's key. to consider the 20 million acres of this, plus the 23 million acres, that is pretty much adjacent to the national petroleum reserve alaska area. tens of millions of acreages ...

Anwr there is wilderness. there is refuge area. there are some more beautiful more san ic landscapes to look at. the 1002 area the 1.5 million acres set aside for the oil and gas development, including the 2,000 acres needed for the footprint for the development, that's the barren remoteness that you are looking at. >> greta: you don't have a sense of how big this is unless you come up and look q >> absolutely that's key. to consider the 20 million acres of this, plus the 23 million acres, that is pretty much adjacent to the national petroleum reserve alaska area. tens of millions of acreages ...

Across the republicanway here. there's plenty around here normally. >> somebody said they saw two birds that adds to the species list. out of the 20 million acres, set aside in anwr there is wilderness. there is refuge area there. are some more beautiful more scenic landscapes to look at. the ten 02 area the 1.5 million acres that have been set aside for the oil and gas development, including the 2,000 acres pleaded for the footprint for the development that's the barren remoteness you are looking at. >> greta: you don't have a sense of how big it is until you look at it. >> that is key to con...

Across the republicanway here. there's plenty around here normally. >> somebody said they saw two birds that adds to the species list. out of the 20 million acres, set aside in anwr there is wilderness. there is refuge area there. are some more beautiful more scenic landscapes to look at. the ten 02 area the 1.5 million acres that have been set aside for the oil and gas development, including the 2,000 acres pleaded for the footprint for the development that's the barren remoteness you are looking at. >> greta: you don't have a sense of how big it is until you look at it. >> that is key to con...