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Then when the russians had what we expected were recordings that would prove that it did, that's the kind of thing you can hang over someone's head. and no administration should want their national security adviser to be in a position where he or she is compromised with the russians. >> because what they can do with that lever and is get him theoretically to hand over intelligence they shouldn't have, the names of spies we have in moscow working for u.s. intelligence. they could then take out and kill. >> any number of things. or even more subtly, not necessarily a specific quid pro quo but th...

National security adviser in a position where he never wants to get crosswise with the russians. >> so he inclines himself toward the russian point of view as a matter of course rather than an individual transactional thing. >> right. >> reason this has resonance, i have things to ask you. i would be remiss if i didn't mention the political environment we're in this week in which i think a lot of people in the country have been shaken by the president's interactions with president putin in helsinki. and people are now quite openly discussing the prospect and what it might mean for us as a coun...

I think basically, and it's kind of pleasing to watch, they have been induced, cohen has been induced to overplay his hand, this sort of raw bullying tactics that normally put an end to things in their new york world won't work here. >> yeah. >> and the real risk they're in now -- this is different from mueller. and we can talk about the crosscutting with mueller. but they're now in individual proceedings where an individual judge, they can be maneuvered to either lie or not. remember what happened to bill clinton down in arkansas when he lied in front of susan webber wright? she took his lice...

Been induced, cohen has been induced to overplay his hand, this sort of raw bullying tactics that normally put an end to things in their new york world won't work here. >> yeah. >> and the real risk they're in now -- this is different from mueller. and we can talk about the crosscutting with mueller. but they're now in individual proceedings where an individual judge, they can be maneuvered to either lie or not. remember what happened to bill clinton down in arkansas when he lied in front of susan webber wright? she took his license away, made him pay $750,000. if cohen winds up getting crossw...

Want to get ahead of the president, they don't want to get crosswise with the nra, so they're being quiet and seeing where the debate plays out, and we'll see what they ultimately decide to do, but we know they'll not make any key decisions this week in washington. before we go to break, one victim of a shooting who spent two weeks in the hospital recovering from rher wounds. today she spoke and said it's the students in parkland that have turned this into such a different national conversation. >> i would just like to say that i'm so grateful to be here and it wouldn't be possible without t...