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Him? probably. but was he influential on this president? absolutely. there were times the president would send a tweet, give a statement, you could tell it was from steve bannon, you could feel it, the same way it was from jared kushner, but without trump, steve bannon is learning that his influence fades quickly, and this could be really, this is more perilous to him than the president. the president will still have his base. >> it's a mistake to say the president has no principles or policies. the president has the classic populist historian politics. people outside the country are screwing ...

Also joining us is cnn senior political analyst david gergen. david, as someone who's worked for presidents, both republican and democrat, what do you make of this tweet? >> well, first of all, anderson, it's good to see you. beyond that, we're back to my hands are bigger than your hands. my nuclear button is bigger than your nuclear button. there is sort of a male sort of, you know, rivalry here that i think that -- what i think is happening is that the white house legitimately sees that the north koreans reaching out to the south koreans to begin one-on-one talks with the south koreans could...

Beyond that, we're back to my hands are bigger than your hands. my nuclear button is bigger than your nuclear button. there is sort of a male sort of, you know, rivalry here that i think that -- what i think is happening is that the white house legitimately sees that the north koreans reaching out to the south koreans to begin one-on-one talks with the south koreans could very much go crosswise with u.s. policy at being very tough on north korea. as you know, anderson, the south korean government is notably more moderate, less aggressive than the trump administration is. so that the capacity o...

Republican party on capitol hill said he needs to go now and they don't want him in the united states senate. the white house is in a different place here, and the reason is twofold. one is the president's own personal history with accusers. this makes it an extraordinary comfortable and awkward conversation for the president to have, and it cuts against his own base politics. this is where we were on the losing side of the strange/moore primary in the runoff in alabama. we know the bannon wing is remaining fired up for roy moore, and donald trump is clearly concerned about getting crosswise w...

I also think there's a political calculation here because he does not want to be crosswise with his base. you heard that gentleman there speaking on behalf the moore campaign constantly referring roy moore's going to go there and support the trump agenda. the people who support president trump talking to alabamians. this is what's key for trump. he knows the bannon wing energy. that the fiery base of the party has not abandoned moore here. and he doesn't want to be on the other side of the voters. >> let's go to the white house, ryan nobles was there and witnessed the exchange between the pres...