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and you see all the police outside, how did they get you out there have to make sure that you were safe? they just had us single file out of the building. there was plenty of police presence available. did they keep you up-to-date, do you feel the university kept you informed of what was going on or how were you learning what was happening? just talking to other students and keeping up with various news sources. now is a stressful time, so they were doing their best to respond properly. but this is one of those events that you can t plan for. did you see anyone injured or anything as you were being led out of the buildings? thank god no. no. just what is this you re a week into class. and you have to shelter in place. you are going to an economics fair. this is supposed to be a good time, beginning of the year. what is this like to have something like this happen right here on your campus. i think it is soessobering. a really strong reminder that ....
Again, this is just a short of just one little section on campus. so difficult to see what may be going on elsewhere. if there is a specific building where there was an active shooter, that would be cordoned off. so the media would not have direct access to something like that at this point in time. so we don t know what is going on somewhere else on campus. but again, the fact that students and others that we ve spoken to so far have not really given any indication that they have even heard shots being fired, and so again, this information will be unfolding, it will be coming out. obviously the governor would have information because i m sure that he is in touch with the command post to try to, you know, get more information on what is going on. but right now i just don t know. you could have an active shooter there. you could have someone who fired a shot and then later, you know, left the campus area. ....
Now, we haven t heard from any witnesses that saw a shooter or a shooting take place. but if there is a photograph circulating online, law enforcement are clearly still they have got some sort of intelligence that they are working on. and as the chief said, this sort of response is to do a very methodical clear through any building that you have any sort of witness even potentially positive identifications associated with every one of those buildings will be checked room by room, closet by closet, door by door. so you will probably see tactical officers kind of circulating in the background, you will see more folks leaving buildings with their hands up. that is not to treat them harshly, but it is to clearly identify them as bystanders and people who are not involved in the event. just to put some context on it, chapel hill is an incredibly astute university, about 20,000 ....
Undergrads, about another 10,000 or 11,000 graduate students. and set in a beautiful location right there in chapel hill. and when you are there, hard to actually delineate where the university stops and the city begins. it is also surrounded by a residential community. so my point is the places that lone shooter could hide or escape to very quickly are innumerable. so this search could be going on for quite some time. and what may be good news is we did hear from a student who was there and she had said that she got this alert that there was an active shooter in a building near her but she hadn t heard anything. doesn t always mean anything, but just talk to us about in this sort of preliminary phase as we re trying to figure out what the information is and obviously, you know, we ve been ....
We see a couple cars now starting to leave. but we just don t know at this point. it is too early. strikes me as we look at this law enforcement turnout there, and we often see this, just a f phafphalanx of sorry to cut you off, but you see them leaving there with their hands up. they are clearing buildings. so there is police activity taking place. you just saw those young people coming out, some of them had their hands up. they are actually clearing the building that they are coming from. so there is some activity a and i do see an ambulance now backing up on scene. the reason i bring it up, that you see an enormous law enforcement presence here and one thing that, well, our recent th history has taught us, this happens a lot and that law enforcement in communities around the country sadly are used to and they train to and are used to responding to this kind of thing. andrew mccabe is with us, of course served in the fbi. ....