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Acting position to get confirmed and get the full support of the president. sort of trying out for the job. >> bianna, let's talk about what the democrats will be doing this weekend. so many of them in iowa. there's this new interesting iowa poll. not a national poll. arguably more relevant. this is in suffolk university and it has biden still leading 24%. then harris at 16%. this is post-debate. warren at 13%. then pete buttigieg, then undecided at 21%. what do you see here? >> it shows the significance of the debate. elizabeth warren and kamala harris had not so much name recognition. i thin...

Nonetheless, where we're at right now, this is the best that the united states senators are going to do, i think it's a step in the right direction. >> you're a member of the united states senate, and trusted by the u.s. constitution, to provide advice and consent to the executive in the filling of appointments in the executive branch. here are the folks that are running dhs, at leasts of today. kevin mcelaine, acting. john sanders who resigned today, acting. not confirmed by the u.s. senate to that position. mark morgan expected to be named acting director of cbp. not confirmed by the u.s. se...

Is this a problem? >> it's a huge problem. everybody in this administration that deals with immigration or customs is in an acting position. that's crazy, how can you get -- how can you enact policy -- the congress can put policy forth, but the fact that these are all acting and can be kicked out at the whim of the president. you try to do something right, the president's going to get rid of you. that's a problem. the constitution is such that they need to bring these folks in front of the senate, so we can bring them advice and consent on whether they're right for the job. you're exactly righ...

But there are draw backs, aren't there? >> there are absolutely draw backs because if you have someone in an acting position, there is a question how could this person drive the policy because you don't know how long they're going to be around and they just don't have the authority of someone that has been confirmed. so he may like it as far as flexibility, i would think that congress would have an issue with it because then you are bringing up constitutional issues by just having people in acting positions and kind of circumventing what the constitution requires which is for the people to be ...

But esper came up, classmates with pompeo, he came up through a traditional way, a senate staffer, he makes a big point of going out and visiting troops. i was with him in hurricane coverage, and we went to make sure fort bragg wasn't too compromised in all of this. it's important to note we don't think and know whether or not esper will be officially nominated nominated, it's clear they want to have a permanent defense secretary, not just for the orders you can carry out but the moral authority, you also hear that on the hill, there's concern that the president will keep someone in an acting ...