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You aren't exposed to that kind of criminality? >> sure. i'm certain you could cut whatever -- there are a number of options in terms of cutting deals. i think for the president's sake, he's got to go in, and he's got to show the american people that he's telling the truth, that he did not obstruct justice in this matter. >> he didn't have corrupt intent. you both used that term. always a safe assumption that i don't know what you mean. norm eisen, corrupt intent, what does that mean? >> corrupt intent means that you're doing something for a wrong purpose. it literally, when you instruct a jur...

Going to be under oath but that you aren't exposed to that kind of criminality? >> sure. i'm certain you could cut whatever -- there are a number of options in terms of cutting deals. i think for the president's sake, he's got to go in, and he's got to show the american people that he's telling the truth, that he did not obstruct justice in this matter. >> he didn't have corrupt intent. you both usehat term. always a safe assumption that i don't know what you mean. normsen, corrupt intent, what does that mean? >> corrupt intent means that you're doing something for a wrong purpose. it literall...