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Yet at the same time, this issue was carried out despite the president's action vis-a-vis the kurds? >> well, that was a remarkably impulsive piece of bad judgment by the president of the united states to unilaterally essentially tell the turks, yes, you can take out the kurdish frontier people, you can dump 2.5 million refugees, arabs, back into syria, and we won't -- we won't oppose you. you know, what he should have done, obviously, was tell them, look, i'm going to move 500 more u.s. troops up there and the turks would have never crossed the border. the turks have also been, arguably, supp...

Operation by making fun of this guy. a coward, whimpering. it's possible, i suppose, the three children who were with him may have been crying and whimpering as they were in a giant gunfight with a trained attack dog after them but, you know, baghdadi, no way. these are violent, desperate, men fighting for their lives who are the cruelest people on the face of the earth. that never happened, in my judgment. >> what do you make of the analysis that we could not have done this without the kurds and yet at the same time, this issue was carried out despite the president's action vis-a-vis the kurd...

Know, deterrence to the whole operation by making fun of this guy. a coward, whimpering. it's possible, i suppose, the three children who were with him may have been crying and whimpering as they were in a giant gunfight with a trained attack dog after them but, you know, baghdadi, no way. these are violent, desperate, men fighting for their lives who are the cruelest people on the face of the earth. that never happened, in my judgment. >> what do you make of the analysis that we could not have done this without the kurds and yet at the same time, this issue was carried out despite the preside...

Would part company with david and that is that we can make a clear showing of proof to the american people and we should share as much as we can but we're not going to burn our sources of information. we're not going to alert the russians to what our technologies are. that would certainly be in the russian interest. it's not in our interests. and this is why i think what donald trump is doing right now is so destructive not only to our own country but to success of his presidency. there will come a time when president trump is going to have to come before the american people and explain why he...

Our own country but to success of his presidency. there will come a time when president trump is going to have to come before the american people and explain why he's going to take action vis-a-vis -- and it could be russian or china and he's not going to want to share that intelligence. so for him to belittle the quality of the work intelligence community does will ultimately belittle his own presidency, his own effectiveness and call it into question. he's already, i think, damaging the country but he's also going to damage his own potential success. >> while i have you, there's another topi...