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Severe and con stricting bubble that he couldn't see the possibility that he was going to lose or could lose even could lose he was shocked at the possibility. that's freak-out number one. i think we saw karl rove freak out, the dog ate my exit polls, karl rove. if you've been listening to any rush limbaugh over the last few days which i have i can still only take small doses but it's been awfully fun to listen. yes, the easiest prediction in the world, and it has come through. >> david from was on with "morning joe," and he has an e book out already, "why romney lost." let's play a little bit...

My brother was in the war. my brother was in the war. then you have a fact-check problem in this hermetically sealed world. chuck todd, we were talking to him du monde live coverage that that's how the mitt romney people see it. it doesn't matter because the authority of the people who adjudicated has dissipated so much. check it out. >> whether you have this argument that they are able to sort of atook the fact-checkers, question a fact-checker, get the base of their parter, the activist base of their party to bomb, if you will, twitter bomb reporters, twitter bomb news media, they think they...

Hold it against them. they think that they can sort of float past this, that the credibility of the media whether you have this argument that they are able to sort of attack the fact checkers, question a fact checker, get the base of their party, the activist base of their party to bomb, if you will, twitter bomb reporters, twitter bomb news media. they think they can float above this. and who knows? they may be right. i thought that was the most fascinating part. they think that the credibility of the overall media is so low right now and the idea that the media is more partisan in nature or ...

Sure how this is going to affect the election and chris over at the "washington post" did a pros and cons. on the pro side, one thing that it does, it excites the activist base for the democrats and the donor base. but on the con side, the black community, one of the groups resistant to gay marriage. "time" magazine has got an item right now that says will black voters punish obama for his support of gay rights? might be on the right side of history but he's on the wrong side of a crucial voting bloc. >> the one thing that we're leaving out is how mitt romney fits into this. without saying any...

Government, market principles. a lot of people look for instance to the healthcare referendum in massachusetts and said that is a bellwether and i don't know if he really believes as we do. so as he possibly transitions to the center he think you will see a whole lot of ill ease if you want to call it that from conservatives. >> shannon: do you think they decide to stay home. clearly that is not a group that is going to vote for president obama. do they check out of the race if they feel like governor romney is not addressing their deepest concerns? >> i don't know that they will stay home. th...