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Of petitions were brought in had to bring in a structural engineer to make sure the floor could support the weight of the petitions. that's what activism has been. i've never seen anything in my state where this many people are upset and this many people are engaged in the political process who never were before. >> watching what you were describing there in ohio, watching things like that happen in places like wisconsin and other places where there's been real mobilization over the past year, year and a half, it makes me wonder not about whether or not people in the states are capable of good...

Bargaining repeal, we needed 250,000, roughly, signatures. we turned in about 1.3 million. to the point the secretary of state's office, when the boxes of petitions were brought in had to bring in a structural engineer to make sure the floor could support the weight of the petitions. that's what activism has been. i've never seen anything in my state where this many people are upset and this many people are engaged in the political process who never were before. >> watching what you were describing there in ohio, watching things like that happen in places like wisconsin and other places where ...