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To be thinking of everything. now the heating of buildings discussion, what we are looking about is how do we have climate, low carbon housing, what are the support mechanisms for low income? what are the incentives? you have a long way to go, even the greens environment minister says we need to explain more and better. absolutely. finally, jennifer morgan, you have made the shift from being an activist into politics as the german special envoy on climate action. you said "this position gives me a set of tools, "myjob is not to demand action from others but to act "and achieve results? " how w...

How would the activist rate you as a kind of politician? i think the activist would rate the politician — i'm still an activist — as working hard, making it happen, having to make compromises along the way, but making a difference where germany is respected as moving forward and it's the core of our economic policy and that's where it needs to be. you don't think that activists in climate are perhaps losing the edge a bit? we have seen criticisms against the kind of shock tactics organisations likejust stop oil are doing and alienating ordinary people? the thing there is, we have laws in s...

Ok, we need to be thinking of everything. so, now, the heat pump, or the heating of buildings discussion, what we're looking at is, how do we have climate resilient, low carbon housing? what are the support mechanisms for low income? what are the incentives for those that move fast? but you've got a long way to go. even the greens environment minister says that, "we need "to explain more and better." absolutely. finally, jennifer morgan, you've made the shift from being an activist into politics as germany's special envoy in international climate action. you said, "this position gives me a set...

To tell them you know what's going on, you're not cowering, they are violating your rights, you know that. by saying that out loud and coming on the show, you are basically daring them to hurt you. tell us why you did it? >> i welcome any attempts are going to take at me.o quite frankly, i think they can all go to hell. i've been sick of sitting on th sidelines watching this committee very just harassed, attacked, and bully so many of my friends, so many conservativ activist rate innocent people for doing nothing, but standing with president trump until the finish line. last week i posted a vi...