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Primary architects of the federal health plan. ultimately, he says, the legislation makes health insurance more fair. even if the younger, healthier people do have to pay more. >> on january we end discrimination in insurance markets. sick and healthy pay the same price. young and old pay the same within a limited range. basically what we're ending is the fundamental failure of our social safety net that you could be bankrupted by high medical expenses. >> so sanjay, this group of actuaries says rates will go up. but some states that are setting up their insurance markets are actually seeing l...

Americans who are currently uninsured. critics of the law -- and there are many, many of them -- they're warning there's going to be chaos. the obama administration has already started a massive education push. a cost, no surprise, a matter of fierce debate. joining me from los angeles, our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. good morning, sanjay. >> good morning, christine. the country's largest group of actuaries really sounded alarm bells when they said in certain cases, the costs -- insurance costs -- may go up by more than one-third. they were talking specifically about people ...

Ten-year window, but the average unlawful immigrant is 34 years old, the actual actuaries say they'll live to 84, a 50-year period. the cost is 6.3 trillion, and the current american taxpayers have to pay for that. >> neil: of course, many of the critics of the study, said, well, republicansing for get to dynamic accounting, something they wanted when it came to calculating the benefits of tax cuts cuts and he the like, but they're not when it comes to whatever illegals, who eventually find a pathway to citizenship, bring to the economy, in terms of taxes they pay and what they contribute to t...

Patients without care. there is always an argument over cost. nonpartisan group of actuaries found obama care would mean a huge increase in overall health spending. >> the individual market cost increases are going to up up around 32% overall. >> and if costs rise, so do insurance premiums endangering one of the basic promises of obama care that it would lower costs and save money. chris? >> chris: jim, thank you. the president apologizes for complimenting someone. that's later on "the grapevine." up next, the new plan for getting the plan b contraceptive to young girls. tors could lose tens o...

Guy bathhouses? >> it is about insurance actuaries and if they determine things cost more money then you see insurance premiums g. the rest of us are hit with the costs. if gay bars were costing everyone a great deal of money and we were picking up the tab you might see enforcement there. that is not the case. >> why do you say it is not the case. >> if we are picking up the tab? >> geraldo: aren't the majority of aids patients on some kind of government coverage because the aids medication costs so much money. >> aids doesn't only affect homosexuals. >> and illegal drug use. mostly in this co...