CNN Erin Burnett OutFront June 4, 2024 23:25:00
>> so, in the non-pence responses to this, i guess they're somewhat consistent. they're not going to like him with a new title. so, in that way -- >> although, as ryan was pointing out, if you fired the guy, then you're firing the trump-appointed guy. there really was not a win on this. >> that's exactly right. it's a hard-to-win situation. but, look, at this point, if you hear the term "special counsel," that just raises flags. it just does. and going back to old adages, if you're explaining, you're losing. and the challenge for democrats going forward is to find a way to explain that this is...