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You take your finger out of the dam, the dam breaks. where you are now, the fear is the dam will break for the taliban. you can see them marching across the country. i can tell you about women and girls there. i've been to afghanistan a couple times. every time i went i went to girls schools. that was the number one thing afghan people would talk about as a positive development post-u.s. invasion, was the opening of girls schools. the taliban brutally shut that down. i met with them there. you know, these are lovely people, right, who finally got a chance. i, like bush, fear for them. at a min...

Anymore. something to be desired, namely a personality. but i'll tell you one thing, if >> you look at woody's career in you ever say one thing about me, the '80s, which theoretically should have been past his prime >> she goes upstairs and she's or you make one more indecent just -- there's something so moving to me about somebody who is so deeply repressed cracking prshgs open. because how can you go on after proposal and i'll get that "manhattan"? handgun of mine and i'll take you to a rooster in one shot. >> nothing will change unless we you think, oh, wait a minute. change it. there's als...

Activity is really fascinating because i think it gets you inside the psyche of the trump enablers. i don't think most of the republicans in washington like donald trump or probably most of them don't feel very warmly toward him at all because he's made their life difficult. but i think what you see in somebody like barr is the notion that if trump goes down, then the dam breaks and, you know, the socialists and the, you know, the muslims and the overlords take over. that they really see themselves not as defending just trump, but somehow, you know, that speech by barr, he really positions him...

Avoid the darker underpinnings. i would like to tell a story about what people will do to avoid being seen for who they really are. i gave mary tyler moore the script. i said, look, i could see you playing this. she was drawn to it. and that really hit me because that told me that there is some part of herself that she was willing so expose that has not been exposed before and she wanted that chance. and so she was given that chance. and she did a great job. >> kelvin? >> in that moment where mary tyler moore comes downstairs and she asks her husband what's wrong. >> i don't know if i love you...

Paul was going to say it. he didn't. what about this back and forth about whether the whistleblower should come forward? >> i wonder how long before the dam breaks and you seeing ifs come out. you saw rush limbaugh named somebody who is named as an alleged whistleblower today. it seems like it's imminent that you could see the president's supporters on capitol hill come out and name the whistleblower. >> bret: what about the protections for whistleblowers? and people told me about the be benzwhistleblowers. >> i was on the day the whistleblower came out. i said at that time, i didn't think tha...