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Robert mueller was. so i think it's only the president's constant barrage of criticism that's ameliorated in any sense the success of this special counsel operation, which has been really magnificent. you know, the question you're asking is how do we assess decisions he made along the way. i think it's difficult to answer until we understand what he did. did he not indict because he doesn't think crimes were not committed? does he think crimes might have been committed but he doesn't have sufficient evidence, or decline to indict further crimes because the president can't be indicted. we have ...

Been committed but he doesn't have sufficient evidence, or decline to indict further crimes because the president can't be indicted. we have to see the content-to-a sophisticated understanding. >> that's an important point because the idea of elevating anyone in public life to pure hero status while they're still serving, it doesn't make sense, at least to journalists. he may have done an incredible job, you just went through some of that and how our a.d.d. environment may have missed some of that, and yet there are clear calls that are important to debate and results important to debate. i'd ...