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And frankly, sean, if we don't bring the culture back center in this country, it's not a left to right issue. it's a serious damage to our country. >> monica. >> we need to talk about the big point, about the decline of morality. it doesn't matter if we're talking about politicses or athletic stars because what we're dealing with here and this is a really good point in big point in america. we're dealing with an add le sentimentality where there are no consequences, so nothing is my fault. nobody understands me. don't blame me. and again, consequences are -- >> all the categories we're talking...

And frankly, sean, if we don't bring the culture back center in this country, it's not a left to right issue. it's a serious damage to our country. >> monica. >> we need to talk about the big point, about the decline of morality. it doesn't matter if we're talking about politicses or athletic stars because what we're dealing with here and this is a really good point in big point in america. we're dealing with an add le sentimentality where there are no consequences, so nothing is my fault. nobody understands me. don't blame me. and again, consequences are -- >> all the categories we're talking...

Point in america. we're dealing with an add le sentimentality where there are no consequences, so nothing is my fault. nobody understands me. don't blame me. and again, consequences are -- >> all the categories we're talking about, tamra's shaking her head. all these categories, do these guys have an obligation? are they role models? >> no, they are not. >> sure, they are. >> no, they're not. you asked me if i said are they. i'm not asking to be a role model. but the point is is, i know a lot of professional athletes and they don't want to be role models. it is the job and duty of parents to t...