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Taxpayer profit, she had to know it was a fraud. we're now seeing that realized, and who's made money? it's the professors and add meres at -- administrators at all these colleges catching all of this money. coincidentally, that's warren and her husband. paul: so she should have known it because you were writing it at the time -- >> even if she didn't read our paper, all she had to do was read the cbo letters saying, look, this is not real accounting. we're not taking in the cost of defaults. paul: so, allysia, any lessons here for those poor idiot taxpayers out there who are going to pay the ...

Taxpayer profit, she had to know it was a fraud. we're now seeing that realized, and who's made money? it's the professors and add meres at -- administrators at all these colleges catching all of this money. coincidentally, that's warren and her husband. paul: so she should have known it because you were writing it at the time -- >> even if she didn't read our paper, all she had to do was read the cbo letters saying, look, this is not real accounting. we're not taking in the cost of defaults. paul: so, allysia, any lessons here for those poor idiot taxpayers out there who are going to pay the ...